diff --git a/CHANGES.md b/CHANGES.md
index 2cec40723..12723df6b 100644
--- a/CHANGES.md
+++ b/CHANGES.md
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
 - Update: RaspiOS base image from 2023-05-03
 - Update: Bitcoin Core v25.0.0 [details](https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/release-notes/release-notes-25.0.md)
 - Update: LND v0.16.4-beta [details](https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/releases/tag/v0.16.4-beta)
-- Update: Core Lightning v23.08 [details](https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/releases/tag/v23.08)
+- Update: Core Lightning v23.08.1 [details](https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/releases/tag/v23.08.1)
 - Update: Suez - Channel Visualization for LND & CLN [details](https://github.com/prusnak/suez)
 - Update: Electrum Server in Rust (electrs) v0.10.0 [details](https://github.com/romanz/electrs/blob/master/RELEASE-NOTES.md#0100-jul-22-2023)
 - Update: C-lightningREST v0.10.5 [details](https://github.com/Ride-The-Lightning/c-lightning-REST/releases/tag/v0.10.5)
@@ -16,8 +16,14 @@
 - Update: BTCPayServer 1.10.3 (postgres by default with sqlite migration) [details](https://github.com/btcpayserver/btcpayserver/releases/tag/v1.10.3)
 - Update: Specter Desktop 1.13.1 [details](https://github.com/cryptoadvance/specter-desktop/releases/tag/v1.13.1)
 - Update: Kindle-Display 0.5.1 [details](https://github.com/dennisreimann/kindle-display/)
+- Update: JoinMarket v0.9.10 [details](https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/releases/tag/v0.9.10)
+- Update: JoininBox v0.8.1 [details](https://github.com/openoms/joininbox/releases/tag/v0.8.1)
+- Update: Balance of Satoshis 15.11.0 (bos) [details](https://github.com/alexbosworth/balanceofsatoshis/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#15110)
 - Fix: Homebanking Interface FinTS/HBCI (experimental) [details](https://github.com/rootzoll/raspiblitz/issues/1186)
 - Remove: Spark Wallet and Sparko CLN plugin (not maintained anymore)
+- Remove: Faraday, Loop, Pool single installs - used in the LiT package instead
+- Remove: deactivate LNproxy in the menu and in provision
+- Info: the users not intended to be logged in will not be available to change into (manage them from admin with sudo)
 
 ## What's new in Version 1.9.0 of RaspiBlitz?
 
diff --git a/build_sdcard.sh b/build_sdcard.sh
index 343c76c50..4b7afbdca 100644
--- a/build_sdcard.sh
+++ b/build_sdcard.sh
@@ -399,7 +399,9 @@ echo -e "\n*** PREPARE ${baseimage} ***"
 # make sure the pi user is present
 if [ "$(compgen -u | grep -c pi)" -eq 0 ];then
   echo "# Adding the user pi"
-  adduser --system --group --home /home/pi pi
+  adduser --system --group --shell /bin/bash --home /home/pi pi
+  # copy the skeleton files for login
+  sudo -u pi cp -r /etc/skel/. /home/pi/
   adduser pi sudo
 fi
 
@@ -542,7 +544,9 @@ service rsyslog restart
 echo -e "\n*** ADDING MAIN USER admin ***"
 # based on https://raspibolt.org/system-configuration.html#add-users
 # using the default password 'raspiblitz'
-adduser --system --group --home /home/admin admin
+adduser --system --group --shell /bin/bash --home /home/admin admin
+# copy the skeleton files for login
+sudo -u admin cp -r /etc/skel/. /home/admin/
 echo "admin:raspiblitz" | chpasswd
 adduser admin sudo
 chsh admin -s /bin/bash
@@ -560,7 +564,9 @@ fi
 echo -e "\n*** ADDING SERVICE USER bitcoin"
 # based on https://raspibolt.org/guide/raspberry-pi/system-configuration.html
 # create user and set default password for user
-adduser --system --group --home /home/bitcoin bitcoin
+adduser --system --group --shell /bin/bash --home /home/bitcoin bitcoin
+# copy the skeleton files for login
+sudo -u bitcoin cp -r /etc/skel/. /home/bitcoin/
 echo "bitcoin:raspiblitz" | chpasswd
 # make home directory readable
 chmod 755 /home/bitcoin
diff --git a/ci/amd64/packer.build.amd64-debian.sh b/ci/amd64/packer.build.amd64-debian.sh
index 163f1bb89..b2ea9ecb1 100644
--- a/ci/amd64/packer.build.amd64-debian.sh
+++ b/ci/amd64/packer.build.amd64-debian.sh
@@ -1,5 +1,7 @@
 #!/bin/bash -e
 
+sudo apt-get update
+
 # install packer
 if ! packer version 2>/dev/null; then
   curl -fsSL https://apt.releases.hashicorp.com/gpg | sudo apt-key add -
@@ -11,8 +13,11 @@ else
   echo "# Packer is installed"
 fi
 
+
+
 # install qemu
-echo -e "\nInstalling qemu..."
+echo "# Install qemu ..."
+sudo apt-get update
 sudo apt-get install -y qemu-system
 
 # set vars
@@ -20,7 +25,7 @@ source ../set_variables.sh
 set_variables "$@"
 
 # Build the image
-echo -e "\nBuilding the image..."
+echo "# Build the image ..."
 cd debian
 packer init -upgrade .
 command="PACKER_LOG=1 packer build ${vars} -only=qemu packer.build.amd64-debian.hcl"
diff --git a/home.admin/00mainMenu.sh b/home.admin/00mainMenu.sh
index 8a7619adb..a43ab1e7a 100755
--- a/home.admin/00mainMenu.sh
+++ b/home.admin/00mainMenu.sh
@@ -126,9 +126,9 @@ fi
 if [ "${bos}" == "on" ]; then
   OPTIONS+=(BOS "Balance of Satoshis")
 fi
-if [ "${lnproxy}" == "on" ]; then
-  OPTIONS+=(LNPROXY "lnproxy server")
-fi
+#if [ "${lnproxy}" == "on" ]; then
+#  OPTIONS+=(LNPROXY "lnproxy server")
+#fi
 if [ "${pyblock}" == "on" ]; then
   OPTIONS+=(PYBLOCK "PyBlock")
 fi
@@ -281,9 +281,6 @@ case $CHOICE in
         LIGHTNINGTIPBOT)
             /home/admin/config.scripts/bonus.lightningtipbot.sh menu
             ;;
-        LOOP)
-            /home/admin/config.scripts/bonus.loop.sh menu
-            ;;
         MEMPOOL)
             /home/admin/config.scripts/bonus.mempool.sh menu
             ;;
@@ -296,9 +293,6 @@ case $CHOICE in
         JAM)
             /home/admin/config.scripts/bonus.jam.sh menu
             ;;
-        FARADAY)
-            sudo /home/admin/config.scripts/bonus.faraday.sh menu
-            ;;
         BOS)
             sudo /home/admin/config.scripts/bonus.bos.sh menu
             ;;
@@ -317,9 +311,6 @@ case $CHOICE in
         ZEROTIER)
             sudo /home/admin/config.scripts/bonus.zerotier.sh menu
             ;;
-        POOL)
-            sudo /home/admin/config.scripts/bonus.pool.sh menu
-            ;;
         SPHINX)
             sudo /home/admin/config.scripts/bonus.sphinxrelay.sh menu
             ;;
diff --git a/home.admin/00settingsMenuServices.sh b/home.admin/00settingsMenuServices.sh
index 5e80866e0..c8c3678cd 100755
--- a/home.admin/00settingsMenuServices.sh
+++ b/home.admin/00settingsMenuServices.sh
@@ -68,7 +68,7 @@ if [ "${lightning}" == "lnd" ] || [ "${lnd}" == "on" ]; then
   OPTIONS+=(la 'LND LIT (loop, pool, faraday)' ${lit})
   OPTIONS+=(gb 'LND LNDg (auto-rebalance, auto-fees)' ${lndg})
   OPTIONS+=(oa 'LND Balance of Satoshis' ${bos})
-  OPTIONS+=(lp 'LND lnproxy server' ${lnproxy})
+  #OPTIONS+=(lp 'LND lnproxy server' ${lnproxy})
   OPTIONS+=(ya 'LND PyBLOCK' ${pyblock})
   OPTIONS+=(ha 'LND ChannelTools (Fund Rescue)' ${chantools})
   OPTIONS+=(xa 'LND Sphinx-Relay' ${sphinxrelay})
diff --git a/home.admin/99updateMenu.sh b/home.admin/99updateMenu.sh
index 0014cc7c2..6199fe1e3 100755
--- a/home.admin/99updateMenu.sh
+++ b/home.admin/99updateMenu.sh
@@ -269,10 +269,6 @@ Do you really want to update LND now?
       if [ ${#error} -gt 0 ]; then
         whiptail --title "ERROR" --msgbox "${error}" 8 30
       else
-        # if loop was installed before reinstall
-        if [ "${loop}" == "on" ]; then
-          sudo -u admin /home/admin/config.scripts/bonus.loop.sh on
-        fi
         /home/admin/config.scripts/blitz.shutdown.sh reboot
         sleep 8
       fi
diff --git a/home.admin/_provision_.sh b/home.admin/_provision_.sh
index fdbd8612f..bc1aa872f 100755
--- a/home.admin/_provision_.sh
+++ b/home.admin/_provision_.sh
@@ -425,15 +425,6 @@ else
     echo "Provisioning clWatchtowerClient - keep default" >> ${logFile}
 fi
 
-#LOOP - install only if LiT won't be installed
-if [ "${loop}" = "on" ] && [ "${lit}" != "on" ]; then
-  echo "Provisioning Lightning Loop - run config script" >> ${logFile}
-  /home/admin/_cache.sh set message "Setup Lightning Loop"
-  sudo -u admin /home/admin/config.scripts/bonus.loop.sh on >> ${logFile} 2>&1
-else
-  echo "Provisioning Lightning Loop - keep default" >> ${logFile}
-fi
-
 #BTC RPC EXPLORER
 if [ "${BTCRPCexplorer}" = "on" ]; then
   echo "Provisioning BTCRPCexplorer - run config script" >> ${logFile}
@@ -594,15 +585,6 @@ else
   echo "Provisioning Specter - keep default" >> ${logFile}
 fi
 
-# Faraday
-if [ "${faraday}" = "on" ]; then
-  echo "Provisioning Faraday - run config script" >> ${logFile}
-  /home/admin/_cache.sh set message "Setup Faraday"
-  sudo -u admin /home/admin/config.scripts/bonus.faraday.sh on >> ${logFile} 2>&1
-else
-  echo "Provisioning Faraday - keep default" >> ${logFile}
-fi
-
 # BOS
 if [ "${bos}" = "on" ]; then
   echo "Provisioning Balance of Satoshis - run config script" >> ${logFile}
@@ -612,14 +594,14 @@ else
   echo "Provisioning Balance of Satoshis - keep default" >> ${logFile}
 fi
 
-# LNPROXY
-if [ "${lnproxy}" = "on" ]; then
-  echo "Provisioning lnproxy - run config script" >> ${logFile}
-  /home/admin/_cache.sh set message "Setup lnproxy"
-  sudo -u admin /home/admin/config.scripts/bonus.lnproxy.sh on >> ${logFile} 2>&1
-else
-  echo "Provisioning lnproxy - keep default" >> ${logFile}
-fi
+## LNPROXY
+#if [ "${lnproxy}" = "on" ]; then
+#  echo "Provisioning lnproxy - run config script" >> ${logFile}
+#  /home/admin/_cache.sh set message "Setup lnproxy"
+#  sudo -u admin /home/admin/config.scripts/bonus.lnproxy.sh on >> ${logFile} 2>&1
+#else
+#  echo "Provisioning lnproxy - keep default" >> ${logFile}
+#fi
 
 # thunderhub
 if [ "${thunderhub}" = "on" ]; then
@@ -675,15 +657,6 @@ else
   echo "Provisioning Stacking Sats Kraken - keep default" >> ${logFile}
 fi
 
-# Pool - install only if LiT won't be installed
-if [ "${pool}" = "on" ] && [ "${lit}" != "on" ]; then
-  echo "Provisioning Pool - run config script" >> ${logFile}
-  /home/admin/_cache.sh set message "Setup Pool"
-  sudo -u admin /home/admin/config.scripts/bonus.pool.sh on >> ${logFile} 2>&1
-else
-  echo "Provisioning Pool - keep default" >> ${logFile}
-fi
-
 # lit (make sure to be installed after RTL)
 if [ "${lit}" = "on" ]; then
   echo "Provisioning LIT - run config script" >> ${logFile}
diff --git a/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.bitcoinminds.sh b/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.bitcoinminds.sh
index 6b11df744..9dc31ef8e 100644
--- a/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.bitcoinminds.sh
+++ b/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.bitcoinminds.sh
@@ -36,7 +36,11 @@ if [ "$1" = "1" ] || [ "$1" = "on" ]; then
     echo ""
 
     # create user
-    sudo adduser --system --group --home /home/bitcoinminds bitcoinminds
+    USERNAME=bitcoinminds
+    echo "# add the user: ${USERNAME}"
+    sudo adduser --system --group --shell /bin/bash --home /home/${USERNAME} ${USERNAME}
+    echo "Copy the skeleton files for login"
+    sudo -u ${USERNAME} cp -r /etc/skel/. /home/${USERNAME}/
 
     # add local directory to path and set PATH for the user
     sudo bash -c "echo 'PATH=\$PATH:/home/bitcoinminds/.local/bin' >> /home/bitcoinminds/.profile"
diff --git a/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.bos.sh b/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.bos.sh
index 84f1d4a7d..1bf82b9b0 100755
--- a/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.bos.sh
+++ b/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.bos.sh
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@
 # https://github.com/alexbosworth/balanceofsatoshis/blob/master/package.json#L85
 # https://www.npmjs.com/package/balanceofsatoshis
 
-BOSVERSION="15.8.14"
+BOSVERSION="15.11.0"
 
 # command info
 if [ $# -eq 0 ] || [ "$1" = "-h" ] || [ "$1" = "-help" ]; then
@@ -194,7 +194,11 @@ if [ "$1" = "1" ] || [ "$1" = "on" ]; then
   /home/admin/config.scripts/bonus.nodejs.sh on
 
   # create bos user
-  sudo adduser --system --group --home /home/bos bos
+  USERNAME=bos
+  echo "# add the user: ${USERNAME}"
+  sudo adduser --system --group --shell /bin/bash --home /home/${USERNAME} ${USERNAME}
+  echo "Copy the skeleton files for login"
+  sudo -u ${USERNAME} cp -r /etc/skel/. /home/${USERNAME}/
 
   echo "# Create data folder on the disk"
   # move old data if present
@@ -211,10 +215,6 @@ if [ "$1" = "1" ] || [ "$1" = "on" ]; then
   sudo -u bos npm config set prefix '/home/bos/.npm-global'
   sudo bash -c "echo 'PATH=$PATH:/home/bos/.npm-global/bin' >> /home/bos/.bashrc"
 
-  # download source code
-  sudo -u bos git clone https://github.com/alexbosworth/balanceofsatoshis.git /home/bos/balanceofsatoshis
-  cd /home/bos/balanceofsatoshis
-
   # make sure symlink to central app-data directory exists ***"
   sudo rm -rf /home/bos/.lnd  # not a symlink.. delete it silently
   # create symlink
diff --git a/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.joinmarket.sh b/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.joinmarket.sh
index 016250ca8..48eefdfb8 100755
--- a/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.joinmarket.sh
+++ b/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.joinmarket.sh
@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@
 # https://github.com/openoms/joininbox
 
 # https://github.com/openoms/joininbox/tags
-JBTAG="v0.7.8" # installs JoinMarket v0.9.9
+JBTAG="v0.8.1" # installs JoinMarket v0.9.10
 
 # command info
 if [ $# -eq 0 ] || [ "$1" = "-h" ] || [ "$1" = "-help" ]; then
@@ -56,8 +56,11 @@ if [ "$1" = "install" ]; then
     echo "# cleaning before install"
     sudo userdel -rf joinmarket 2>/dev/null
 
-    echo "# add the 'joinmarket' user"
-    adduser --system --group --home /home/joinmarket joinmarket
+    USERNAME=joinmarket
+    echo "# add the user: ${USERNAME}"
+    sudo adduser --system --group --shell /bin/bash --home /home/${USERNAME} ${USERNAME}
+    echo "Copy the skeleton files for login"
+    sudo -u ${USERNAME} cp -r /etc/skel/. /home/${USERNAME}/
 
     # add to sudo group (required for installation)
     adduser joinmarket sudo || exit 1
@@ -69,9 +72,6 @@ if [ "$1" = "install" ]; then
     sudo -u joinmarket mkdir -p /home/joinmarket/.ssh
     chmod -R 700 /home/joinmarket/.ssh
 
-    # install the command-line fuzzy finder (https://github.com/junegunn/fzf)
-    bash -c "echo 'source /usr/share/doc/fzf/examples/key-bindings.bash' >> /home/joinmarket/.bashrc"
-
     echo "# adding JoininBox"
     sudo rm -rf /home/joinmarket/joininbox
     sudo -u joinmarket git clone https://github.com/openoms/joininbox.git /home/joinmarket/joininbox
@@ -115,8 +115,7 @@ if [ "$1" = "install" ]; then
     echo
     # install a command-line fuzzy finder (https://github.com/junegunn/fzf)
     apt -y install fzf
-    bash -c "echo 'source /usr/share/doc/fzf/examples/key-bindings.bash' >> \
-    /home/joinmarket/.bashrc"
+    echo 'source /usr/share/doc/fzf/examples/key-bindings.bash' | sudo -u joinmarket tee -a /home/joinmarket/.bashrc
 
     # install tmux
     apt -y install tmux
diff --git a/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.lit.sh b/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.lit.sh
index fab4dd3ee..e562d44f7 100644
--- a/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.lit.sh
+++ b/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.lit.sh
@@ -90,7 +90,11 @@ if [ "$1" = "1" ] || [ "$1" = "on" ]; then
   if [ ${isInstalled} -eq 0 ]; then
 
     # create dedicated user
-    sudo adduser --system --group --home /home/lit lit
+    USERNAME=lit
+    echo "# add the user: ${USERNAME}"
+    sudo adduser --system --group --shell /bin/bash --home /home/${USERNAME} ${USERNAME}
+    echo "Copy the skeleton files for login"
+    sudo -u ${USERNAME} cp -r /etc/skel/. /home/${USERNAME}/
     # make sure symlink to central app-data directory exists
     sudo rm -rf /home/lit/.lnd # not a symlink.. delete it silently
     # create symlink
diff --git a/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.pyblock.sh b/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.pyblock.sh
index dd25a69e1..e04e4e45b 100644
--- a/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.pyblock.sh
+++ b/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.pyblock.sh
@@ -29,7 +29,12 @@ if [ "$1" = "1" ] || [ "$1" = "on" ]; then
   echo "*** INSTALL pyblocks***"
   
   # create pyblock user
-  sudo adduser --system --group --home /home/pyblock pyblock
+  USERNAME=pyblock
+  echo "# add the user: ${USERNAME}"
+  sudo adduser --system --group --shell /bin/bash --home /home/${USERNAME} ${USERNAME}
+  echo "Copy the skeleton files for login"
+  sudo -u ${USERNAME} cp -r /etc/skel/. /home/${USERNAME}/
+
   cd /home/pyblock
   sudo -u pyblock mkdir /home/pyblock/config
 
diff --git a/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.stacking-sats-kraken.sh b/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.stacking-sats-kraken.sh
index 44d3fbeda..59f87d95d 100755
--- a/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.stacking-sats-kraken.sh
+++ b/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.stacking-sats-kraken.sh
@@ -28,7 +28,10 @@ if [ "$1" = "1" ] || [ "$1" = "on" ]; then
     /home/admin/config.scripts/bonus.nodejs.sh on
 
     # add user
-    sudo adduser --system --group --home /home/$USERNAME $USERNAME
+    echo "# add the user: ${USERNAME}"
+    sudo adduser --system --group --shell /bin/bash --home /home/${USERNAME} ${USERNAME}
+    echo "Copy the skeleton files for login"
+    sudo -u ${USERNAME} cp -r /etc/skel/. /home/${USERNAME}/
 
     # install stacking-sats-kraken
     cd $HOME_DIR
diff --git a/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.template.sh b/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.template.sh
index ff84ec988..5662e9950 100755
--- a/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.template.sh
+++ b/home.admin/config.scripts/bonus.template.sh
@@ -161,7 +161,11 @@ if [ "$1" = "1" ] || [ "$1" = "on" ]; then
   # BACKGROUND is here to seperate running apps by unix users
   # and only give file write access to the rest of the system where needed.
   echo "# create user"
-  sudo adduser --system --group --home /home/${APPID} ${APPID} || exit 1
+  # If the user is intended to be loeed in to add '--shell /bin/bash'
+  # and copy the skeleton files
+  sudo adduser --system --group --shell /bin/bash --home /home/${APPID} ${APPID} || exit 1
+  # copy the skeleton files for login
+  sudo -u ${APPID} cp -r /etc/skel/. /home/${APPID}/
 
   # add user to special groups with special access rights
   # BACKGROUND there are some unix groups available that will give the access to
diff --git a/home.admin/config.scripts/cl.install.sh b/home.admin/config.scripts/cl.install.sh
index f57c0d76e..88ddb8b39 100644
--- a/home.admin/config.scripts/cl.install.sh
+++ b/home.admin/config.scripts/cl.install.sh
@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@
 # https://lightning.readthedocs.io/
 
 # https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/releases
-CLVERSION="v23.08"
+CLVERSION="v23.08.1"
 
 # install the latest master by using the last commit id
 # https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/commit/master